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MAN: Good morning.
Good morning.

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Good morning, ma'am.
Good morning.

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Good morning, Mrs Wilberforce.
Good morning, Mr Brown.

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Good morning, madam.
Good morning.

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Much has altered over the years,

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but this labyrinth of streets
around the Kings Cross area

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is the setting for one
of the greatest comedies ever made.

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A heist movie, a murder story,

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a fairy tale steeped in London soot.

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A parable of Britishness,
and a comedy of manners

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in which a gang of thieves
TRIES to kill a little old lady.

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(DRAMATIC MUSIC)

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What would you say made

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The Ladykillers
such a timeless comedy?

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Because it was so different
in turn to any other British film

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I've ever seen, I think.

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It was a comedy,
but it had a dark side to it.

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And the amazing thing is

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there's so many different
interpretations of it.

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Mackendrick said once

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that if it had not been a comedy,

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if he'd made it straight,

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it would've been censored
out of all existence.

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He could never have made it.

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So it was a comedy,
but it was a dark comedy.

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(OMINOUS MUSIC)

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IAN: The Ladykillers remains one of
the greatest British movies ever made

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because it has not lost its sting.

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The digs that
Rose-Mackendrick made in the '50s

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are still relevant today.

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The dark surrealism of the film
can be found in Monty Python.

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The social satire is nearly
every British sitcom since.

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Of course, comedy,
good comedy, is a serious business.

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('MINUETTO' BY BOCCHERINI PLAYS)

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How about that.

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Eh?

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How about that.

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(SWEET MUSIC)

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NARRATOR:
London is a city of secret places

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of unexpected country lanes
and hidden gardens.

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The Prime Minister
lives like a professional man

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in a plain house on the side
of a narrow cul-de-sac.

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(OMINOUS MUSIC)

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(BIRDS SQUAWKING)

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All right. All right.

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(SQUAWKS)
All right, my dear.

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I haven't been gone
so very long, have I?

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Oh darling, water. Oh.

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(MUSIC INTENSIFIES) (LOUD SQUAWKING)

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It was here on Argyle Street,

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where Alec Guinness's grotesque
Professor Marcus takes a room,

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the perfect location
from which to spring

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the perfect plan
to rob the mail train.

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In that famous shot
in which we first meet him

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at the front door, we see
St Pancras station framed behind him.

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Mrs Wilberforce?
Yes.

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I understand you have rooms to let.

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Oh, the rooms? Yes. Won't
you come in, please?Thank you.

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As the '50s arrived,

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a victorious
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was getting back on its feet,
asking itself, what comes next?

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Cinema was still
a national preoccupation.

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Amid austerity and rationing,

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the British public were hungry

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for films that reflected
the changing times

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and they were desperate for laughter.

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(BELLS CHIMING)PRESENTER:
Already Piccadilly is very much
as it was before the war.

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The British haven't yet forgotten

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when the lights went out
for six long years.

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(GONG CLANGS)

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(AIR RAID SIRENS WAIL)

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All was darkness then,

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except for light slightly.

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The illumination
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more than the historic buildings
and human lives.

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Accumulated wealth was spent

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and the foreign investments of
centuries sold to purchase victory.

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When victory came at last,
Britain was flat.

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In Britain in the 1950s,

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the country was getting over

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the worst aspects of the war.

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So, rationing had started to end.

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You were starting
to see modernisation creep in.

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Interestingly,
this film, The Ladykillers,

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is shot in the steam age,
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diesel trains began
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So we're on the very verge
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moving into the 20th century
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The social makeup of London
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was fairly tumultuous.

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The people were coming out
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They were also trying to cope
with continuing austerity,

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and there were
a tremendous amount of problems,

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social problems on the streets.

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And yet, there was a sense that

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we had won the war
and were unravelling in the peace.

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Now, London
had been bombed to pieces.

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There were gaping holes
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in the infrastructure, in the roads

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and it was being rebuilt
but piecemeal,

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a little bit at a time.
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it was borrowing money to get by

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and so everything that was happening
was happening where it could.

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There's constant bomb sites which
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There was all sorts
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because there was so much money
changing hands in odd ways.

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There were still the remnants
of the black market.

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There were still gangsters
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It was a very mixed up,
messed up time,

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but that was also a time
of enormous potential.

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A time when someone with a good idea

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or an imaginative approach

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or, as this film shows,

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a cunning semi-legal,
if not entirely illegal enterprise,

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could probably slip through the gaps
in society and make their way.

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(INTRIGUING MUSIC)

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Picture the scene:
Kings Cross in 1955.

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The scars of the war
are still evident,

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but the times are changing.

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Advertising hoardings, motor cars,

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a sense of possibility hangs
in the polluted air.

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London is bustling into the future

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by fair means or otherwise.

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So Ealing Studios' properly,
the way that we see it,

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sort of golden age
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really happens after Michael Balcon

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who was an early mogul,
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get some of his films off the ground
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And Ealing Studios, as we know it,

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happened just around the beginning
of the Second World War.

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And throughout the second World War,
Balcon was very interested

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in the idea that film should have
some social responsibility,

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and he was interested in expanding
what kind of things could be done.

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And so he started to make films

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that were concerned
with war propaganda,

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things like
Went the Day Well in 1943.

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a very British, very sort of genteel

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style and approach, and also
a really nice way of working,

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which included contracting
most of its players out.

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So by 1949, he had Alec Guinness,

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he had the people that you associate
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The films are an inspired reflection

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of a jaunty, disrespectful side
to the British character.

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The plucky island
that has stood up to Hitler,

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a spirited non-conformism
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during the pomp of the empire
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but had been reawakened by the war.

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Indeed, it is often the tension

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between these two sides
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tradition and subversion,

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that stirs up the comedy.

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And never more so
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NORMAN: Ealing comedies
were a reflection

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of the national character
at the time.

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They caught the zeitgeist

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of how people were feeling.

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They caught the idea that,

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having seen off the Nazis at a cost,

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that they had a sense of...it had
built up that sense of resistance.

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That idea that you could be

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sort of tribal in a way.

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It brought out the idea of course,
that Britain was an island nation

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and that they would resist
all invaders.

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It left the nation
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sense of resistance,
which was transferred

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to institutions and authorities

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that they didn't care for. They
didn't want to be put down anymore.

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They wanted to actually
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And so Michael Balcon,

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who understood the British
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he brought together a whole gang

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of like-minded directors
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and indeed editors.

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The Ladykillers is the last
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a collection of comedies
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because the studios had worked

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with a variety of different
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They'd learned a documentary style.
They wanted realism.

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They wanted to look at the streets,
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and appeal actually
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cinema-going audience.
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of these changes
and The Ladykillers was the final...

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if you like... Because the studio
was closed pretty much after this.

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It was sold to the BBC
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ended with The Ladykillers.
This was their final hurrah.

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May I introduce Mr Lawson?

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How do you do gentlemen?
Mr Lawson?

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And Mr Robinson.
Mrs Wilberforce.

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Mr Robinson.

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All right. Thank you.

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You believe it all.

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That's the amazing thing
about the film.

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It is a kind of a fantasy, isn't it?

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It's got a sort of fable-like
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It does have, but you keep
on watching and you believe it all.

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That's the extraord... And I think
that's one of the reasons

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you believe it all, is the old girl.

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Yes, Katie Johnson. Yes.
Katie Johnson.

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She's, you know,
a fairly unknown figure,

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but she's so good in the film.

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She keeps it on a steady, I mean,

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she doesn't try
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Yes.
She is...completely...herself.

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It's that marvellous quality
of great comedy.Yeah.

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None of the actors or characters
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for them the world is dead straight.
Yeah. Exactly, yes.

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And she certainly is. She's a...

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She really bases the whole thing

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in reality I think,
more than anything else.

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(METALLIC CLANGING)
(PIPES SHUDDERING, BANGING)

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(WATER GURGLING AND HISSING)

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(CHUGGING)

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WOMAN: (OVER PA)
The train now arriving

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at Platform 1...
(TRAIN WHISTLING)

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..is the 1:05pm from Cambridge.

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(SUSPICIOUS MUSIC)

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This is King's Cross Station,
one of the main hubs of London

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in the 1950s and it was in this area

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The Ladykillers took place.

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Now she's driving away.

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Under the artful eye of director
Alexander Mackendrick,

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the most cunning
of the Ealing directors,

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in The Ladykillers,
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it is a character.

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This is the perfect microcosm
of London in 1955.

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The oblivious traffic streaming by

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that serves as both
an opportunity

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for the professor's gang of rogues
and a trap.

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They will never escape its grip.

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In fact, they will only ever be free

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of Mrs Wilberforce's
strange little house

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via, how should we put it?
The back door.

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The plot of The Ladykillers
is relatively simple.

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It's a caper movie to begin with.

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It's about a gang of criminals

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who have plans to rob a security van

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on King's Cross Station.

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The element
that is unusual about this

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is that they want to use
a little old lady

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who lives right on the edge

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of the Copenhagen Bridge,

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which is part of one of the tunnels

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leading into Kings Cross.

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And they're going
to actually use her

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to get the loot
away from the station

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and to safety, because
that is where the danger lies

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in the aftermath.

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We have to have someone to bring out
the money. Let's get a professional

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or bring it out ourselves.
A spectacular getaway, you mean?

258
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That's 70 miles an hour in the heart
of London, in broad daylight.

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(CHUCKLES)
(LAUGHS)

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I'll take it back into the station-
And send it out by train?

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What any intelligent policeman
would expect us to do.

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Quite a flair for the obvious.

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Can't you appreciate
that Mrs Wilberforce

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is not a mere appendage to my plan.
She's the very core of it.

265
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So, we have Mrs Wilberforce,

266
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who is a very old lady,

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slightly fussy,
slightly bewildered.

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She's well-known
at the local police station

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for constantly going in
and reporting crimes

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which aren't crimes.

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She has a room in her house
that she wants to let out,

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and this mysterious
Professor Marcus appears

273
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and rents out the house.
This is Alec Guinness's character.

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Very rapidly, it becomes clear

275
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that he's putting together
a gang to do a job.

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They want to-to pull over a van

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and steal what's in it,
but for this, they need a patsy.

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So he tells her that they're going
to have a string quintet

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practicing upstairs
during the evenings in her house.

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And does she mind?
She doesn't mind. She loves music.

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Once they've got the goods,
once they've got the money,

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they need to get it past the police.

283
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And the way
they've decided to do this

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is to tell the old lady
to go to the station

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and pick up a case which she's
got to bring back to the house.

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That's the genius,

287
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as the Professor Marcus insists,

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that's what's perfect
about his perfect plan

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is that the police will be looking
for money going out,

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but what they're going to do
is bring the money in.

291
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There is this wonderful quality
in The Ladykillers

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that it takes real life

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and sort of re-serves it up
in dark comic terms.

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So, the gang
are essentially a-a model

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of the real life gangs
of Kings Cross.

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The Italian gangs.
They are, yes. They're a model of...

297
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what was going on, really.

298
00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,520
After all,
what does Peter Sellers play?

299
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He plays an archetypal spiv,
really, doesn't he?Yeah.

300
00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:59,480
And uh...Herbert Lom is
the international one...

301
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um...dead serious.

302
00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,400
He's the most-
Yes. He's the assassin, isn't he?

303
00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,840
Yes. He's the assassin.

304
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So as a contrast to Mrs Wilberforce,

305
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who has this kind of rosy,
quaint English-ness

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and a real politeness,
but also has this sort of

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iron-fist-in-a-velvet-glove quality
about her,

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this kind of
unbreakable sense of self

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and how things should be
in the world.

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Versus the men, the criminals,
that pile into the picture.

311
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Each of them represents
a very specific part

312
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of British society at that time.

313
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So, you have the youngest
of the bunch,

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you have Peter Sellers
who comes along,

315
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and this is basically
your East End,

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cheeky spiv character.

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He even has the sort of draped,

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flat lapel jacket
that the Teddy boys used to wear.

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He represents sort of
the danger of youth,

320
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of the youth rebellion, I guess,
of the period to some extent.

321
00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,400
You have Herbert Lom

322
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who was a Czech-born,
half-Jewish actor

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who came to Britain
to get away from the Nazi invasion

324
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of what was then Czechoslovakia.

325
00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:07,200
And he had a side
in playing villains.

326
00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,359
He was always playing villains.
He had both seemingly the demeanour

327
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and I guess at the time
what people consider to be

328
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the right accent for it.

329
00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,040
And I think
he's the scariest of the bunch.

330
00:17:16,079 --> 00:17:19,560
I think he very much represents
this idea of um...

331
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of a foreign threat.

332
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Making up the gang is

333
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the huge thug played by Danny Green,
who is the muscle.

334
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If-If-If you'd imagined
a potato talking,

335
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it would talk in the voice
of Danny Green.

336
00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,360
You have the major Cecil Parker,

337
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wonderful sort of faux gentleman,

338
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bit of a coward,
probably cashiered from the army

339
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if indeed he ever was in the army,

340
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but a sort of prime
cowardly con-man type.

341
00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,360
This is a wonderful collection,

342
00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,840
but it's headed by Guinness.

343
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He gives
an extraordinary performance.

344
00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,240
Guinness's performance
as the professor

345
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is a comic marvel of straight acting.

346
00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,480
When he first read the screenplay,

347
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he was sure that it had been written
for Alastair Sim.

348
00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,480
He was assured by all around him

349
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that, "No, no, no, it's for you,
Alec. It's your story".

350
00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,720
Nevertheless,
what Guinness decided to do

351
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was play the role as Alastair Sim.

352
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,080
So, that extraordinary look,
the hairpiece, the teeth,

353
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the dark eyes, the pale skin,

354
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is in a way based on Alastair Sim,

355
00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,560
especially his version
of Ebenezer Scrooge.

356
00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,800
Alec Guinness served during
the Second World War in the Navy.

357
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He was a landing craft commander
during the invasion of Sicily.

358
00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,000
He would also go back to the UK
now and again to appear

359
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in patriotic plays. So he was
in a play about bomber command

360
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and the odd film
where he played a soldier.

361
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He had prior to the war been

362
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in a number of theatrical
productions, including one

363
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he'd devised himself, which is
an adaptation of Great Expectations.

364
00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,960
And just after the war,
David Lean took the idea

365
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of that adaptation and then
further adapted it with Ronald Neame

366
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into the film Great Expectations,
in which he cast Alec Guinness,

367
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which is his first big film role.

368
00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,720
Then, his first big breakthrough

369
00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,440
popular appeal movie was

370
00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,520
Kind Hearts and Coronets,
which was an Ealing Comedy's comedy,

371
00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,600
and it was the beginning
of his career with Ealing.

372
00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,920
In Kind Hearts and Coronets,
he plays all the members

373
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of the D'Ascoyne family,
who are murdered one at a time.

374
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,320
So, he plays a variety
of very cartoon-like characters,

375
00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:23,400
which is interesting when you think
of his career.

376
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,520
He'd been playing
Shakespearean roles largely,

377
00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,680
almost entirely
up until the Second World War,

378
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,800
then, coming out of it,
he plays some serious roles.

379
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,080
He's got some romantic comedies
under his belt to come.

380
00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:36,280
He was going to be a romantic lead,

381
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,040
but he was quite prepared
to take these very, very

382
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,080
over-the-top, cartoonish roles.

383
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,400
What's wrong? Major! Major!
Tell me what's happening!

384
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,440
Louis! Louis!Major!Will you
mind your own business, please?

385
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,160
So, with Alec Guinness,

386
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,400
sort of rightly placed,
both as an actor

387
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,760
and in every other sense,
as the ringleader of this group,

388
00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,800
it is a wonderful ensemble piece
of a film in terms of these actors.

389
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,280
But it's really interesting
to see someone who would become

390
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,160
as huge as Peter Sellers
in sort of a second-fiddle part.

391
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,400
Of course, at the time,
Sellers was more than happy to just

392
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,680
be on a film set
with Alec Guinness.

393
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,600
He regarded him as one of his idols.

394
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,960
He said he was happy
just to watch Alec Guinness act.

395
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,040
Guinness in return
once recalled that he felt

396
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,120
that Peter Sellers
was rather sulky or quiet on set.

397
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,000
Maybe because he was intimidated,
although that's just me inferring.

398
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,440
But Guinness is,
I think rightly deserving

399
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,880
of that level of adulation
from Sellers

400
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,920
and from I think the rest of us.

401
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,240
Because the ability
with which he could switch

402
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,000
between, you know, Shakespeare

403
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,000
and comedy, something like
Kind Hearts and Coronets

404
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,920
to Bridge on the River Kwai,
which was only a few years later

405
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,560
in 1957, is...is really remarkable.

406
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,120
Guinness never overdoes things.

407
00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,200
His performance is brim full of
subtle ironies and physical comedy.

408
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,160
He's the devil
in a threadbare jumper.

409
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,880
There is something Mephistophelian
about his performance.

410
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,960
It is less the ill-gotten gains
at stake than his own cleverness.

411
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,280
He unravels
as the plot unravels around him.

412
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,640
Arrogance is his downfall

413
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,880
and he cannot understand
why this little woman

414
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,560
has destroyed his master plan.

415
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,240
(WHISTLE BLOWS)

416
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,840
(CHUCKLES) I'm always leaving it.

417
00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,600
(PROFESSOR LAUGHING)
LOUIS: What's she doing? What?

418
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,280
MAN: What's going on here?
It's all right.

419
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,560
It's just that she went
back to get her umbrella.

420
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,680


421
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,800
LOUIS:
She could have shopped us all.

422
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,400
The silly old-
Uh...what you're knocking her for?

423
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,200
She done it, didn't she?
We're nearly home, Louis.

424
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,320
What can possibly go wrong now?

425
00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:07,240
(KNOCKING) Driver! Stop at once!
Hey, what?

426
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,280
Born in Boston
of Scottish heritage

427
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,040
and raised in Glasgow,

428
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,240
Alexander Mackendrick
was a gifted artist.

429
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,480
He had been a political cartoonist

430
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,040
and drawn propaganda pieces
during the war,

431
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,360
and then moved into documentaries.

432
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,600
The head of Ealing Studios,
Michael Balcon,

433
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,920
had reluctantly accepted him
as Director of Whiskey Galore.

434
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,120
And Mackendrick would wrap
his stylish comedies

435
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,560
in barbed wire and through films
like The Man In The White Suit

436
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,640
and The Lady Killers
come to be seen

437
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,280
as the greatest exponent
of the Ealing comedy.

438
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,440
He was very politically minded.
A lot of his cartoons

439
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,360
are quite satirical and quite edgy.

440
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,760
During the Second World War,
he worked in the film industry

441
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,120
and was part of a group of people
who helped to restructure

442
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,120
the Italian film industry.
So, when he came back to the UK,

443
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,680
he, instead of going back
into advertising and cartoons,

444
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,560
he went into working
for Ealing Studios,

445
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,160
where, initially,
he worked as a sketch artist

446
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,720
and gradually took
little assistant directing jobs

447
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,080
until his first directing job
for the studios

448
00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:13,960
was Whiskey Galore about Scots
thumbing their noses at the English.

449
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,200
And he worked his way up
through The Man in the White Suit,

450
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,040
which was seen by Ealing
as excessively satirical

451
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,320
and this, The Ladykillers, was his,

452
00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:27,680
I would argue his finest work.
It was his farewell to the UK.

453
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,760
He left after this
to go to America

454
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,840
and it really is
the apogee of his career.

455
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,520
It's a phenomenal piece of work.

456
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,280
It's interesting
that Alexander Mackendrick ended up

457
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,720
on The Ladykillers
because Michael Balcon

458
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,080
did not originally want him for it.

459
00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:43,720
He'd made a film in 1951
for Ealing Studios

460
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,640
called The Man in the White Suit,
which was, I think,

461
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,440
quite politically subversive
and spiky for its time.

462
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,880
And perhaps slightly
outside of the remit

463
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,720
of what Ealing usually did,
which tended to fall back on

464
00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:00,240
slightly more cosy truisms about
British authority, particularly.

465
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,440
Mackendrick was known
for having a little bit more of a,

466
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,800
perhaps more quietly,
but still a subversive attitude.

467
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,200
He had also a little bit
of a different background

468
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,640
to perhaps
some of the other Ealing directors.

469
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,200
He came from Boston originally,

470
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,800
by the time he was seven,
he had both lost his father

471
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,720
and his mother had left him behind.

472
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,360
So, his grandfather took him
to Scotland where he was raised.

473
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,320
And perhaps
partly as a result of that,

474
00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:28,720
he had something
of a lonely childhood.

475
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,600
By the time he was making movies,

476
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,320
you can see some of that cynicism
about humanity, I think,

477
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:36,280
and some darkness in that work.

478
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,640
And so even though
he was not originally slated

479
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,880
to end up on The Ladykillers,

480
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,120
he was already friendly with

481
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,760
and had worked with William Rose,
the screenwriter.

482
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,200
Ironically, but fittingly,

483
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,920
The Ladykillers is a creation
of two outsiders

484
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,600
who had made Britain their home,
and they brought a disdainful

485
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,760
and slightly distant examination
of the country to the film.

486
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,360
The screenwriter William Rose
had been born in Missouri,

487
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,640
but was stationed in London
during the war,

488
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,120
married a local woman and stayed on.

489
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,600
So, he could observe British manners
from close quarters.

490
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,920
He wrote five screenplays for Ealing,
among them Genevieve,

491
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,400
and claimed to have dreamed up
his masterpiece in its entirety.

492
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,640
Brilliantly structured,
piercingly clever

493
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,720
and scaberulously funny,

494
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,560
the screenplay for The Ladykillers
would be nominated for an Oscar.

495
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,800
(DUBIOUS ORCHESTRAL MUSIC)

496
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,160
I don't believe it.
I don't believe it.

497
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,240
Shut up.
It's just sitting there.

498
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,280
Look, could we-No-one, I hope, is
going to suggest that we steal it.

499
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,240
So, you're talking about two people,
to some extent or another

500
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,800
who had a slightly external view
of British-ness,

501
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,640
but also seemingly could take
a scalpel to it in certain ways.

502
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,520
And so when they met at this meeting

503
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,840
at Ealing Studios
that they had weekly

504
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,400
and Rose mentioned that the
entire concept of The Ladykillers

505
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,920
came to him in a dream,
Mackendrick was fascinated by that.

506
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,080
That was when he thought
he could really do something

507
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:16,360
with the material because
it was quite an unusual concept.

508
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,880
Well, Mackendrick
is a director who...

509
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,600
..really came from Scotland
and did things differently.

510
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,320
Him and Robert Hamer were the best,
I think, of that group of directors.

511
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:32,680
Yes.
But he was the most original,

512
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,400
and this is the most original
of all the films

513
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,400
that are so admired now.

514
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,360
Were they admired at the time?

515
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,520
I mean, they're revered now.
Yes, they were. I think they were.

516
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,280
But I think the Americans thought,

517
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,560
oh, the funny British
are at it again, you know,

518
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,320
but they did like this film,
didn't they?Yes.

519
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,880
I think it was um...

520
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,720
was well remarked upon,
and as I say,

521
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,160
Mackendrick was immediately
invited to Hollywood.

522
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,920
Rose and Mackendrick
had had slightly difficult dealings

523
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,880
with each other
on a previous film, The Maggie,

524
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,000
but at the weekly meetings
at Ealing,

525
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,680
when Rose pitched his new idea,
which he dreamed of,

526
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,440
Mackendrick took to it immediately.

527
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,240
He saw the possibilities
and so the two of them

528
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,120
really collaborated on this script.

529
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,840
Interestingly enough, Michael Balcon
was rather nervous of the script

530
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,280
and so was Rank,
the distribution company.

531
00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:34,760
However, Mackendrick had his way.

532
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,680
He said, "I can make this film
with Rose's script",

533
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,040
which actually wasn't completed
at the time of filming.

534
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,320
And, that it won't be...
He assured Balcon

535
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:48,680
that it wouldn't be too satirical
or too political.

536
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,280
In fact, what it did give
Mackendrick was the opportunity

537
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:58,560
to actually put all these elements
in, in a much more coded form.

538
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,640
And I think that's one of
the reasons why The Ladykillers

539
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,640
is so endearing.

540
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,000
Because every time you see it,
you see yet another little layer.

541
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,560
You see another little element um...

542
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,160
that has been smuggled in
by Mackendrick.

543
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,560
Alexander Mackendrick has said
this is a film

544
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,480
about Britain in subsidence,
and I think it's significant

545
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,760
that Rose and Mackendrick
were both outsiders.

546
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,120
They were looking at the UK

547
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,360
in this slightly bewildered fashion.

548
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,800
For instance, William Rose had
previously written Genevieve,

549
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,560
this film about this car race
to Brighton.

550
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,960
There's a scene in that
where two people cannot understand

551
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,160
why in a boarding house they have
to pre-book their hot water

552
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,360
for 30 minutes. And after
they've complained... (CHUCKLES)

553
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,320
..one woman says,
"Are they Americans?"

554
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,400
And you can see
that's William Rose's voice.

555
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,400
That's the man,
the American in Britain.

556
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,600
You've got to book your hot water?!

557
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,360
And this film
is very much like that.

558
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,680
It's people
looking at Britain and going,

559
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,800
"This is how they do things?!

560
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,880
"This is how crimes are committed?
This is insane!"

561
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,960
But it's done
with enormous affection.

562
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,800
(SINGING INDISTINCTLY)
(DOOR OPENS)

563
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,400
(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

564
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,320
Ah, professor!

565
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,160
Good afternoon, gentlemen.
(LAUGHTER)

566
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,520
Your last rehearsal! Ah, professor,

567
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,800
I must give you back
your ten shillings.Thank you.

568
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,240
You see, the cab man wouldn't take
any money cause he said

569
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,800
he was going
into some other business.

570
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,240
In terms of style, Mackendrick
was recalling German expressionism,

571
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,000
particularly the work
of Fritz Lang and F W Murnau,

572
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,040
films such as M and Nosferatu.

573
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:39,000
You can see the Vampire
in Nosferatu in Professor Marcus

574
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,160
and Mackendrick makes wonderful use
of exaggerated silhouettes.

575
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,600
Tall, dark angles

576
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,160
and this division,
this sort of scale

577
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,840
between the little old lady
and these mobsters in her home.

578
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,600
So, Mackendrick
was extremely visually

579
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,320
and cinematically literate,
as you might expect,

580
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,760
and you can see with him that as
much as he has an ear for dialogue,

581
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,800
which he's well known for,
he also has a great eye here

582
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,600
in these interiors. Even though that
house looks very sort of cluttered

583
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,160
and overcrowded by people
and so forth,

584
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,880
he finds a way
to get those Dutch tilts in,

585
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,000
and he finds a way to kind of get
those angles at an odd skew.

586
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,000
And it only aids this feeling
of this kind of dream-like sense

587
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,600
of things not quite being right,

588
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,200
because whose perspective
are we looking at here or from here?

589
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,680
Even when the camera's kind of
floating around behind

590
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,920
the heads of characters, it's almost
like an omniscient viewpoint,

591
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,240
which suggests that there's
someone else in the room watching

592
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,920
all of this as though it's almost
like an out-of-body experience

593
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,680
to see it. And I think
that's really fascinating.

594
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,520
NORMAN: This is a film
that is shot on real locations,

595
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,640
but it has the exaggeration

596
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,760
and the distortions of

597
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,120
a kind of really grim fairy tale.

598
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,680
Not only that, but it moves
through different ways

599
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,760
and modes of comedy, of farce,

600
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,840
into something
that is close to film noir.

601
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,840
It goes into a caper film.

602
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,920
One of the impressive things
about this film is that

603
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,520
this actual robbery itself...

604
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,120
So meticulous
is that depiction of that robbery

605
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,200
that it was...
The film was banned for being shown

606
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,320
in prisons for many years

607
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,920
after a bunch of ex-convicts
performed a robbery

608
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,960
based almost entirely
on the robbery in this film.

609
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,560
Once you've got
the measure of this film,

610
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,040
once you've got the idea
that you are watching something

611
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,400
that is unreal,
but in a realistic environment,

612
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,040
then you've got it.
You can play with anything.

613
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,080
The interior
of Mrs Wilberforce's house

614
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,120
encompasses all of Mackendrick's
expressionist games.

615
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,760
It appears tilted,
a fairy-tale house

616
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,000
built around a bewilderment of rooms

617
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,800
and these inconstant pipes

618
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,320
that Mrs Wilberforce encourages
with a rubber mallet.

619
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,320
Mackendrick classified his film

620
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,040
as a parody of Britain in subsidence.

621
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,680
It was just on the edge, wasn't it?

622
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,800
Yeah.When you look at it now,
you think...

623
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,880
..is that working?

624
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,120
You know, but it does.
Somehow, it works.

625
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,520
These ridiculous crooks...
Yeah.

626
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,760
..who are really quite real,

627
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,760
as well as being ridiculous.

628
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,320
There's something fantastical
about this film, isn't there?

629
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,640
Yeah.When you see it again,
you think, gracious me,

630
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,080
I've never seen a film
quite like this.(CHUCKLES)

631
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:39,840
ALL: (SINGING)


632
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:45,880


633
00:32:50,841 --> 00:32:53,840
(CHUGGING)

634
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,440
(OMINOUS MUSIC)

635
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,680
It was over there on Frederica Street

636
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,800
where the facade of the house
was specially built.

637
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,360
In the film, Frederica Street
overlooked the railway line

638
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,640
and the mouth of Copenhagen Tunnel.

639
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,600
This gave Mackendrick
his Dante-like images

640
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,400
of criminal bodies being dispatched

641
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,560
onto passing coal trains to descend,

642
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,680
we don't doubt, all the way to hell.

643
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,880
(RAILWAY TRACKS CLATTER)

644
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,120
(BOLD MUSIC)

645
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,520
ONE-ROUND: Guess who's next!

646
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,160
Of course comedy, good comedy,
is a serious business,

647
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,560
and there are many different ways
in which The Ladykillers

648
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,040
has been read over the years.

649
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,080
Is it some kind of psychological
study of the family unit,

650
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,800
where Mrs Wilberforce
becomes the mother figure

651
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,400
and the reason, the very reason,
the gang finally can't kill her?

652
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,800
Is it that there is
an honour amongst thieves,

653
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,760
there are certain levels
they will not stoop to?

654
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,159
She is their mother.
How could they possibly kill her?

655
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,239
Then it is read
as a political satire.

656
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:34,520
The between Mrs Wilberforce
is the unchanging,

657
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,600
unstinting,
conservative side of things,

658
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,920
whereas the gang
is huffing and puffing

659
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,280
to change things in the 1950s,

660
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,920
but they cannot change tradition.

661
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,920
NORMAN:
Mrs Wilberforce is the emblem

662
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,400
of a kind of older generation
of Britain,

663
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,960
the one who grew up
with Victorian values,

664
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,600
one who is sort of full

665
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,720
of moral rectitude.

666
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,960
And although on the surface

667
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,280
she appears to be one
of Ealing's kindly,

668
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,760
little benign, genteel,
little old ladies,

669
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,760
she's actually got
reserves of strength

670
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,960
and fortitude that emerge
during the course of the film.

671
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,200
NATHAN: What they're doing
is they're pinpointing a moment

672
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:23,000
in British history and they're
drawing in a variety of characters

673
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,680
and a variety of archetypes
and a variety of narratives,

674
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:28,960
and putting them
into this one mythical place

675
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,840
in order to illustrate a point.

676
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,480
And the point is the change
that Britain is about to go through

677
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,960
or is currently undergoing
and how it is irreversible,

678
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,720
but how Britain is trying to fight
back and trying to stop it.

679
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,000
And this is very much
what Mackendrick was clear on.

680
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,520
It's a satire, it's a social satire,
about the state of the nation.

681
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,760
He saw the lady that is not killed
despite the title,

682
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,160
Mrs Wilberforce,
as symbolic of Old Britain,

683
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,040
the Pre-War Britain,
the Victorian Britain

684
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,920
that was still clinging onto
its ideas and its principles.

685
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:01,680
And he saw the gang as modernity.

686
00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:04,120
They represent these types
that were coming in, you know,

687
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,800
trying to get their purchase
into this tiny weenie street,

688
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,800
which is holding onto
all its values.

689
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,800
And he saw that as being
what the film was about.

690
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,280
So really, so much of the...

691
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,200
the cen... like, the linchpin,
I guess I would say

692
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:21,160
of The Ladykillers
is the performance

693
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,920
from Katie Johnson
as Mrs Wilberforce.

694
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,160
And Katie Johnson was an actress

695
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,320
who was sort of a jobbing,
supporting actress

696
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,240
for decades in British film.

697
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,560
So it's fair to say
that some British audiences may well

698
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,160
have recognised her face.

699
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,400
Which I think only heightens this
feeling that you get in the film

700
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,640
of here's an actress who's,
I believe, 76 years old

701
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,840
when the film was being made
or as the film came out

702
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,480
and is already a likable character.
She's a very sweet, little old lady,

703
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,680
but it gives you the sense that
audiences or contemporary audiences,

704
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:54,000
would've been on
this woman's side in some ways.

705
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,280
They'd been watching her
for a long time,

706
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,720
but she'd never had
her name by the title.

707
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,200
She'd never got
a proper credit on a film

708
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:04,680
or been in a real starring role,
even over all those years.

709
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:08,160
So, Alexander Mackendrick
actually spoke to Ealing

710
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,640
and spoke to Rank, the distributors,
and wanted to get her name

711
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,200
above the title,
which he succeeded in doing.

712
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,280
But then you could always
get that in British films.

713
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,400
When you look down the cast list,

714
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,800
you've seen a number of bit players,
who hardly...you hardly...

715
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,440
Frankie Howard is a barrow boy,
for goodness sake.Yes! (CHUCKLES)

716
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,960
Young man!
Do you mind?

717
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,600
That's the charm of the film

718
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:41,040
and the charm of lot of British
films at the time is the cast list.

719
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,760
Oh, good God, it's him and him,
and her and her.

720
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,360
And it's certainly true
of this film.

721
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,640
And it creates a texture,
doesn't it? Because...

722
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,360
they're all very different actors...
Yes, absolutely.

723
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,720
..and that kind of mixture
sort of gives it something.Yeah.

724
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,080
I think the real...it advertises

725
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,960
the fact
that British character actors

726
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,640
are probably
the best in the world.

727
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,880
I don't know
whether that's true or not,

728
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,040
but I think it is,
and this...this film

729
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,120
absolutely agrees with that theory.

730
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,680
Yeah.
But what it's about,

731
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:21,520
it's very difficult to ascertain.

732
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,240
What do you think it's about?

733
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,520
I think it's about,

734
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,520
on one level it's a morality tale.

735
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,720
Yes, it is. Yes.
It's about...

736
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,560
wrongdoers who get their comeuppance
delivered to them...Mm.

737
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,760
..by fate, by the little old lady.

738
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,640
I think as you said, it is
a portrait of a changing time.

739
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,280
I think we'd come out of the war
and the empire, the old order,

740
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,640
have been sort of pushed aside...
Mm.

741
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,400
..and this new order
hasn't found itself yet.

742
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,360
So the crooks kind of represent
that aspirational side.

743
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,760
It's definitely a comment
on its time.Yeah.

744
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,760
Definitely. But quite what
that comment's actually saying is,

745
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,880
well, you can have all sorts
of theories about it.Yeah.

746
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:10,560
The Ladykillers remains one of the
greatest British movies ever made.

747
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,080
What's more,
it is hugely influential.

748
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,120
It's had such an influence
on pop culture.

749
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,520
The dark surrealism of the film
can be found in Monty Python.

750
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,800
The social satire is nearly
every British sitcom since.

751
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,560
It's kind of fairy-tale London
can be felt in films as diverse

752
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,440
as The Long Good Friday, Performance,
and the Harry Potter films.

753
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,320
And the Coen Brothers
proved with their remake,

754
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,040
it was an unrepeatable film as well.

755
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,680
I think that The Ladykillers
is a masterpiece

756
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:44,160
for many, many reasons,
not least visually.

757
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,520
It's timing is so impeccable.

758
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,080
The comic timing,
the combination of the screenplay,

759
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,080
someone like even Peter Sellers
who was fairly green at the time,

760
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,560
just the way he can land
a simple quip,

761
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,160
it's...it's flawless.

762
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,560
And people will always laugh at it,

763
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,360
regardless of the fact
that it's really specifically

764
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,960
in 1950s Britain,
it doesn't really matter.

765
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,280
It-It travels. Like there's this
wonderful moment with Peter Sellers

766
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,120
that I always think of and it's not
one of the bigger comic moments,

767
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,880
I don't think, but to me,
it just shows the brilliance

768
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,280
of the combined efforts
of all the creative people

769
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,200
involved with the film.
Where you get

770
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:23,040
the old ladies piling in
for the tea party,

771
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,880
the initial idea is Herbert Lom's
like, oh, we'll throw her

772
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,960
in the car. Oh, we're gonna have
to take that one too.

773
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,520
The second woman comes in
and then they all start coming in,

774
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,600
and Peter Seller's looks
and he says, "What shall we do?

775
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,800
"Charter a bus?" And it cuts.

776
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,640
Doesn't let you have
any reaction time.

777
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,160
It cuts away immediately
and keeps moving the action.

778
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,760
(WOMEN CHATTER INDISTINCTLY)
What do you think we should do?

779
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,520
Charter a bus?
(CHATTER CONTINUES)

780
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,200
The Ladykillers is a superb film

781
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,360
because it can exist
in pure isolation

782
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,560
as a fable, as a fairytale,

783
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,720
and yet it is also if looked at,
a document of its time.

784
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,440
So, you can study this film
almost endlessly.

785
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,120
You can study this film
as a document about '50s Britain

786
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,280
and about a historical moment
in this country.

787
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,560
You can also use it to study film.

788
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,680
It's about a particular point
where Ealing Studios,

789
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:18,360
who represented a particular
kind of cinema, is ending.

790
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,160
And understanding,
the arrival of new forms.

791
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,760
It's also, at the same time,

792
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,760
something which you don't have to
worry about any of that whatsoever.

793
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,000
It's also just a daft story
about this little fairy-tale cottage

794
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,200
in a forest of London

795
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:36,720
where these monsters come
and try to scare an old lady

796
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,480
and then fail and she ends up
living happily ever after.

797
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,720
So, you can see any film you want to
in this and it will work.

798
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,520
That's what is so genius about it.

799
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,840
It can be every film
to every person.

800
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,880
(SOMBRE MUSIC)
(BUS CLATTERS)

801
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,960
But I do hope you'll believe me.

802
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,960
It's true. I get it, the lolly,
but I wasn't really one of the gang.

803
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,360
I admit the keeper
was planned in my house,

804
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,560
but it wasn't I who planned it.

805
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,080
And I did not plan
or have anything to do

806
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,760
with the East Castle Street job.
Didn't ya, ma'am?

807
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,320
The central character
of Mrs Wilberforce,

808
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,440
who is trying to give the money back
to the police

809
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,400
and partly because
she spent a lot of time

810
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,720
talking about things
that haven't happened,

811
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,400
they are very kind,
they're indulgent.

812
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,800
But they simply don't believe her.
They say, "Well...

813
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,720
"just keep the money.
She's done her best to actually

814
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,200
be as righteous as possible

815
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:37,800
and uh...as law abiding,

816
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,160
and that is her reward.

817
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,120
Her reward is to have all the money.

818
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,600
I think that's a fantastic,

819
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,320
fantastically subversive message.

820
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,920
Especially given the fact
that she is the one

821
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,720
who's actually...emblematic

822
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,720
of these old,
almost sort of past-it values

823
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,120
of implacability,
you know, the Victoriana.

824
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,200
And the great thing is that

825
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:06,120
it doesn't seem
to have affected her at all,

826
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,200
because now she is able
to be generous.

827
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:12,400
Now she's able to be benevolent
in a way that she was before,

828
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,560
but without the resources.
Now she has the resources.

829
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,520
Absolutely wonderful
and a strangely uplifting ending.

830
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,120
Oh, very good, very good.

831
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,360
Turned out nice, hasn't it.
Yes. It has.

832
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,680
Perhaps more than any other Ealing,

833
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:35,320
it's lasted because
you don't see it maybe nostalgically,

834
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,280
you see it as its own thing.

835
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,840
I see it nostalgically too

836
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,120
because of King's Cross
and everything.Yes. Yes.

837
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,760
But at the same time,

838
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,360
it's an astonishing film
because it...

839
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,760
it works on
so many different levels.Yeah.

840
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,760
Not sure what Mackendrick really
was trying to do with the film,

841
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,280
but whatever it was,
he made a very good film.

842
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,960
Oh, hey, hey, hey! Look!
Here, lady! Look!

843
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,960
(SWEET MUSIC)

844
00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:11,840
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